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TAPE #32116

TAPE RECORDED POLYGRAPH EXAMINATION OF
WILLIAM ESTON GARRETSON ON
AUGUST 10, 1969, 1625 HOURS
AT PARKER CENTER

QUESTIONED BY: LT. A. H. BURDICK, SCIENTIFIC INVESTIGATIONDIVISION
TRANSCRIBED BY: STELLA C. ROTH, INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION
ASSISTED BY: LT. A. H. BURDICK

(*) INDICATES UNINTELLIGIBLE



Q By LT. BURDICK: Do you want to have a seat over there next to the wall? Have you ever had one of these tests before?

A No.

Q Never have, huh?

A No.

Q Well, we will fill out an information card and get down what this is all about. You have talked to your attorney?

A Yes.

Q And been advised of your rights and all that sort of stuff?

A Yes.

Q Fine. Give me your last name.

A Garretson.

Q How do you spell it?

A G-a-r-r-e-t-s-o-n.

Q Your first name?

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A William.

Q And your middle name?

A Eston. Eston, E-s-t-o-n.

Q Let's see, today is what? The 10th, huh? And your home address?

A Well, my last address is 10050 West Cielo Drive.

Q 1-0-0--

A Yeah.

Q 5-0--

A Cielo Drive, C-i-e-l-o.

Q C-i-e-l-o Drive?

A Yes, that was in Beverly Hills. My address in Ohio, do you want my address in Ohio?

Q No, your phone number there?

A 274-0965--0965.

Q Speak up a little bit. I got to--

A Okay.

Q 0965.

A Yes.

Q I got a bad ear, and I don't hear too well out of this one. Do you have a business address or a place of employment?

A No, I was taking care of Mr. Altabelli's dogs while he was in Europe.

Q How did you come upon that job?

A Well, I met Mr. Altabelli on--in Hollywood. And

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he, you know, he wanted--he's just got back from Europe, and he lot some woman stay there before that he knew for twenty years, and, you know, she partied every night and everything and the place was torn up and he--and just, you know, he told me if I wanted a job, I could come up and clean his house, and I was going to go back to Ohio in March, and I was picked up for Possession of Marijuana, and it was lowered to Visitation. And so, you know, after that I was going to go back to Ohio, but he was going to Europe and he wanted to--he said the dogs liked me and everything, and he wanted to know if I would stay on while he went to Europe, then he would be back, you know, and he asked me, you know, he'd give me an airplane ticket home and everything.

Q Who was the woman that had your job before?

A Edith Stoltan (phonetic).

Q Stoldan?

A Stoltan or something like that.

Q Stoltan?

A Yeah, it's--well, there's a big list, you know, of everything, you know, that's on the door by the kitchen. There's a great big list with names on it, you know, people I call if I need anything.

Q Oh, people to call if you need anything? She was one you could call for information?

A Yes.

Q You mean they didn't part unfriendly?

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A Well, they was--they were, you know, friends for twenty years or something like that.

Q And she lived in this house that you lived in?

A No, no, she lived down--down in Hollywood.

Q But she had lived in this house on-

A --when he went to Europe before.

Q On Cielo before?

A Yeah.

Q And she partied every night and he didn't like this?

A Well, that's from what I hear, you know, the place was a mess when I got there and everything.

Q What place was a mess?

A The guest house.

Q The guest house?

A Yes. She was taking care of the dogs and the bird. The bird died and everything. And so, you know, he was going to put the dogs in a kennel, but he did that before and Christopher kept breaking out, you know, and they tried to kill him, so--

Q They had to?

A No, they thought they would kill him, you know, if he put the dogs in the kennel again when he went to Europe.

Q How many dogs?

A Two poodles and a weimaraner, or whatever you call

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it, I guess it was.

Q How much did you get paid to do this for him?

A About $35 a week.

Q Plus room and board?

A Yes.

Q They paid your food bill?

A No.

Q Just board?

A Just board.

Q For the room, I mean.

A I stayed there and, well, anyway if I needed dog food or anything, you know, I'd just call 'em, and they paid for that and did my laundry.

Q Uh huh. Who lived there with you?

A Well, I asked a friend of mine that just got out of Vietnam to come and live with me; and I think it--this was sometime in May--late May, and he lived with me for about a month until--well, I had him thrown out, you know, I told him to get out. That was before July--it was still late June, and I kicked him out.

Q Why?

A Because, you know, well, they had the--had a party one time over there, and they had

champagne for grownups, and he took a few bottles out, you know, and I told him not to, and he went ahead and done it anyway; and I told him to get out, but he already done it when I told him not to do it.

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Q Well, how did you know he was going to do it? Why would you warn--couldn't you say, "Hey, don't take any champagne?"

A He took it before. He took it before, and I told him not to take any more, and he went ahead and took some more, you know. There was a girl there. Him and, you know, a girl and another girl. One of the girls I knew. They all lived out in Indio, and they stayed there for awhile; but after I kicked him out, that's the last time I saw him.

Q What was his name?

A Darrell Kistler.

Q And what were the girls' names?

A Debbie Tidwell and Patty something (*) I'm not sure. I think it's Montgomery or something like that.

Q And they--all four of you lived in this guest house for awhile?

A No, no, no, they came and visited us every once in awhile. They'd stay for a night or so but, you know, they never lived there for any length of time. He lived there for a month with me.

Q Then after he left the girls stayed for awhile?

A No, no, they left with him.

Q They left with him?

A Well, you see he had a car and they had a car; and when I kicked him out, you know, well they went back to Indio with him.

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Q Both of them?

A Yes.

Q One, didn't she stay with you?

A Well, one was only 17. She graduated this year, you know, and she was looking for a job in L. A., and she couldn't find a job, so she went back to Indio.

Q Are they both from Indio?

A Yes, both the girls.

Q Which one was your date?

A Debbie Tidwell.

Q Tidwell?

A Yes.

Q When was the last time you saw her?

A That was while--when I kicked him out. That was the last time I saw her.

Q How long ago was this?

A Well, like I say, it was the late part of June.

Q June?

A It was in the late part of June. I don't remember exactly when.

Q How old are you?

A Nineteen.

Q When is your birth date?

A August 24th, 1949.

Q Where were you born?

A Martins Ferry, Ohio.

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Q What kind of a car do you have?

A Well, I don't have a car. I used to have a '68 Camaro when I lived in Ohio, but I sold it before I came out to California.

Q Do you have a drivers license?

A Yes.

Q California drivers license?

A No, it is an Ohio drivers license.

Q You married, divorced, separated, single?

A Single.

Q Children?

A No.

Q How far in school did you go, Bill?

A I graduated in '67.

Q High school?

A Yes.

Q What is your mother's name?

A Mary Garretson.

Q Mary?

A Yes.

Q Your father?

A William Garretson.

Q Both still living?

A Yes.

Q Got any brothers or sisters?

A Yes.

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Q How many?

A One sister and one brother.

Q Older or younger?

A My sister is 22, and my brother's 17.

Q Where are they now?

A In Ohio living with my mother.

Q Your sister isn't married yet?

A No, she's not married.

Q Have you been living alone since Kistler left?

A Yes. Well, see, I lived alone when Mr. Altabelli left, in March, and well Roy Plank came up to see me ever once in awhile.

Q Who?

A Roy Plank.

Q Plank?

A Yes, he's down in Camp Pendleton. He's a marine down there.

Q Roy Plank, P-1-a-n-k?

A Yes.

Q He come to visit you once in awhile?

A Yeah, he came to visit ever once in awhile.

Q Okay.

A And the last time I heard, why he went A.W.O.L. and they caught him in Lancaster, Ohio, and they took him back down to Pendleton to the brig or something.

Q Who else has come up here? Roy Plank, Kistler--

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A Yes.

Q --Tidwell?

A Tidwell and that other girl, Darrell's friend. There's a few people have been up there. You know, I was hitchhiking and they brought me- all the way up--all the way up to the house. There was one person that came in one time. He asked for a drink of water--oh, yeah, there's another girl that stayed there before with me, too. She's in Washington, and she had friends out in Inglewood, and this guy came up one time to visit one night, you know, it was in July. I think it was the middle of the month, and he asked for a drink of water, and he came in and kept talking, and talking, and talking (*) with me and her. He was a Japanese. That's when I felt I (*) with him. He asked the girl and me if we wanted to go out for dinner and everything (*).

Q What branch of the service is Kistler in?

A The army.

Q And he was from Vietnam?

A Well, he spent fourteen months in Vietnam and made sergeant.

Q Is he out now?

A Yes, he's out.

Q And who is this other one that's in the brig? The one that was-

A Roy Plank.


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